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Corps Of Royal Artillery Drivers

Mar 02, 2014 I am searching for the service records of my 3 x Gr.Grand-Father John Robie/Robbie, who joined the above Corps at age 19. D&M 809: Full length, profile to left, smoking a large curved pipe.

Corps Of Royal Artillery Drivers

Adjutant-General's Office. Published: (1865).

List of officers of the Royal Regiment of Artillery, as they stood in the year 1763, with a continuation to the present time. With a list of the officers of the corps of Royal Artillery Drivers. And of the officers of the Military Medical Department of the Ordnance, since 1763; with a list of the chief commissaries. Language(s): English Published: Greenwich, printed by Elizabeth Delahoy, Albion Printing Office, 1815.

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The Royal Corps of Artillery Drivers were a separate corps formed in 1794 to replace the practice of hiring civilian contractors to haul guns and equipment. However They were not formally a part of the RHA or RA, and were organised separately from them both, which caused endless problems until they were incorporated into troops and companies, they also hadntheir own HQ staff that reported to board of ordinance. At Waterloo half the artillerymen in Wellington's army were drivers. During the battle they would have been in charge of moving up ammunition/supplies/ to the batteries and having care of the horse teams pulling the guns. They were equipped and dressed like the RHA (not sure how they fitted in with the Foot artillery). At Waterloo the RHA were used like Foot artillery positioned along the ridge interspersed amongst the Foot Artillery, both acted as fixed batteries, that were shuffled around a bit but largely stayed put.

Wellington have them strict orders not to return fire with the French artillery, as they were more numerous and the Duke didn't want to waste ammunition agaisnt guns, rather he wanted their fire saved for the infantry and cavalry. Captain Mercer found out the wisdom of this pretty early on. During the mased French charges the gunners and drivers were ordered to abandon their pieces and run for the nearest square after firing for as long as was safe to do so, to prevent the French carrying them away, they were to remove a wheel from the guns. Captain Mercer, whose journal is a must read for all artillery enthusiasts, once more disobeyed orders and stood his ground, as he felt the Brunswick Square behind him would run if they saw his men run, instead his men kept working the guns and hid beneath them, by the end of the battle the guns were protected by walls of dead men and horse's. No gun was spiked by the French, but at least one gun was spiked by one of its gunners during De'Erlon's attack at the beginning of the battle.

Also at the start of the battle Bull's Troop Royal Horse Artillery deployed howitzers agaisnt Hougoumont wood to try and dislodge the French hiding in there. Overall command of the artillery was I think Colonel George Adam Wood. And Augustus Frazer commanded the RHA.

Not sure who was in overall charge of Foot Artillery. (Please pardon me if I have gone on too long, I wasn't sure how much info you wanted, so I'll stop now) Josh. Josh, Thank you for your reply. I had gathered that it was a bit of a mish-mash when it came to the drivers, your information confirms that. I am checking out two men George Chapman and Thomas Chapman, the former a member of the Royal Horse and Foot Artillery, the latter a member of Royal Artillery Drivers. Upon joining the army both are described as joining the RHA, so you see my confusion!! I am quite familiar with Mercers G troop, I consider myself very lucky and honoured to have had three of my ancestors in G Troop RHA, my 3 x Great grandfather Bombardier Nathaniel Almey his two cousins, Bombardier Samuel Almey and Gunner George Almey.

Nathaniel and Samuel are noted as Omey on the Waterloo medal list, a local dialect issue! I never tire of hearing of their exploits at Waterloo. On Nathaniel's death in 1863 his obituary mentioned his ' four brothers in arms' assuming that two are Samuel and George Almey, who were the other two?, until now I have been unsure, now I have a hunch. My ancestors are all from Earl Shilton in Leicestershire and so are the Chapman brothers mentioned above, a possibility? Josh, you mention a spiked gun, what is your source for this information? Thanks for your help Paul New Member Posts: 5 Joined: April 17th, 2013, 11:27 am. That's definitely a possibility, I wish you luck in the rest of your search.

Before I get to the sources here's an idea I had. Since the Royal Corps of Drivers were equipped and dressed almost identically to the RHA, they might have worked especially with that arm, I can't find reference to Driver troops being attatched to the Foot artillery. On to the sources. My info comes from the Waterloo Companion by Mark Adkin and in Alessandro Barbero's book The Battle.

During D'Erlon's attack at the beginning of the battle Major Roger's Foot Artillery Brigade (As I'm sure you know Foot Artillery batteries were referred to as Brigades) attatched to the 5th Division were positioned just to the east of the 'Elm Tree' Crossroads. From here despite the ground limiting their line of sight and thus their field of fire, they targeted Quiot's column coming up the Brussels road. At about 2:O'clock (or either side thereof) the I Corps looked as if it was about to overunn the ridgeline and General Picton had fallen dead in the saddle. Bourgeois brigade headed by the 105th Ligne reached the top of the slope right in front of Rogers Brigade. Unable to fight their guns any longer the men of the Brigade retreated precipitously towards Kept's brigade (One of the Duke's staff saw guns being driven away but doesn't specify a battery) through which the 1st Dragoons (Royals) would ove through in order to charge.

As they fled a Sergeant in command of one gun thought the position lost irrevocably, as all visible infantry were recoiling from the crest, or too far away to help, and taking a spike from the nearside (Left) axle box one of the two spikes inside and a mallet, probably from the nearside limber box, spiked the gun and ran with the rest of the men. Given that the limbers were positioned some 20 metres behind the guns, it is also probable that the sergeant had to run to the limber, then run back to the gun and then run away again. The French held the top of the ridge for approximately five minutes before being thrown back by the union brigade and did not carry away the guns, or turn them against the allies, however this was the only known instance of a British gun being spiked at Waterloo. Adkin writes about the Corps of Royal Artillery Drivers. During the peninsula it developed a bad reputation for indiscipline one officer called it a 'Nest of Infamy' I quote here 'The Corps was organised into troops (eleven in 1811 but four in June 1815) each under a captain commissary and consisted of ninety drivers supported by a number of craftsmen. Since the number of drivers was well in excess of the number required by a battery, the drivers were always split up, seldom serving undern their own officers who remained responsible for their welfare and administration.

Discipline and morale suffered. At Waterloo about half of the 5,300 artillerymen in Wellington's army were were drivers belonging to the Corps.

There were ten Corps officers present at the battle non of whom were killed or injured. At Waterloo they served well, with their teams and wagons very much under fire. Their casualties were about equal to thise of the gunners' Looks like they redeemed their honour, lost in the Peninsula, on the most glorious of fields. After Waterloo the corps seems to have been amalgamated into the Royal Artillery. Material on the Royal Corps of Artillery Drivers can be found in the Dickson Manuscripts and in Volume II of the History of the Royal Regiment of Artillery by Francis Duncan. Does anyone have a first-person account of gun wheels actually being removed from allied artillery pieces during the French cavalry attacks?

That order may have been given, but I can see both brigade and troop commanders raising their eyebrows at that one, not the mention chiefs of section and the gunners themselves. Technically, I don't believe there was an official designation of 'Royal Foot Artillery' though it was used. There was Royal Artillery and the Royal Horse Artillery. The two artillery commanders at Waterloo were Frazer and Wood. Dickson was also with the army but commanded the siege train, 3 companies of 18-pounders.

He had arrived too late from North America to be given his usual assignment as the artillery commander for the army. Senior Member Posts: 490 Joined: May 28th, 2015, 10:23 am. I'm not familair with the actual source for the detatchemnt of the wheels, perhaps you should check Mercer? Frazer also wrote some letters. I would say that there was a designation between Foot and Horse artillery, however it was conveyed in technical parlance and in official dispatches. Wellington wrote in his dispositions about the foot artillery being given to the 3 main corps and the Horse artillery to Uxbridge's cavalry.

But in practice foot artillery batteries were called Brigades, and the Horse artillery had troops, which to an artilleryman tells him all he needed to know.